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Hey Quantnet forum,
So, I'm trying to wrap my head around this idea of backwardation. The wiki for "Normal backwardation", which they claim is the same as backwardation, quotes this:
"A backwardation starts when the difference between the forward price and the spot price is less than the cost of carry, or when there can be no delivery arbitrage because the asset is not currently available for purchase."
I thought it through and I still don't get it.
So, firstly, I'm guessing they are referring to backwardation starting from contango. This implicity assumes that forward prices are above spot prices. If the difference between forward and spot is less than the cost of carry, people rather long the forward contracts than buy and store.
Say spot at $10, contract at $14 and cost of carry at $5. It benefits someone to long the contract paying $14 on delivery than $15 ($10 + $5) for buy and storing.
This is what I don't get.
1. Wouldn't longing these forward contracts bid up the price from $14 to possibly $15?
2. The normal sloping forward curve (contango) will then shift upwards AND still remain normal sloping. How does backwardation even occur, which I'm guessing is defined in most areas as invert sloping?
3. Backwardation is when forward prices are below spot prices. I don't see how the above scenario would lead to that.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Donny
So, I'm trying to wrap my head around this idea of backwardation. The wiki for "Normal backwardation", which they claim is the same as backwardation, quotes this:
"A backwardation starts when the difference between the forward price and the spot price is less than the cost of carry, or when there can be no delivery arbitrage because the asset is not currently available for purchase."
I thought it through and I still don't get it.
So, firstly, I'm guessing they are referring to backwardation starting from contango. This implicity assumes that forward prices are above spot prices. If the difference between forward and spot is less than the cost of carry, people rather long the forward contracts than buy and store.
Say spot at $10, contract at $14 and cost of carry at $5. It benefits someone to long the contract paying $14 on delivery than $15 ($10 + $5) for buy and storing.
This is what I don't get.
1. Wouldn't longing these forward contracts bid up the price from $14 to possibly $15?
2. The normal sloping forward curve (contango) will then shift upwards AND still remain normal sloping. How does backwardation even occur, which I'm guessing is defined in most areas as invert sloping?
3. Backwardation is when forward prices are below spot prices. I don't see how the above scenario would lead to that.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Donny